June 7, 2026

The Queen, the Firebrand, and the Bride: The Triple Legacy of the Monroe Women (Monroe First Ladies Part 2)

The Queen, the Firebrand, and the Bride: The Triple Legacy of the Monroe Women (Monroe First Ladies Part 2)

Year(s) Discussed: 1817 - 2025

This episode examines the complex leadership dynamics of the Monroe family as Elizabeth Monroe and her daughter Eliza Monroe Hay navigated the high expectations of U.S. First Ladies in the wake of Dolley Madison's time as hostess of the President's Mansion. Joined by my special guest, Ann Foster of the Vulgar History podcast, we explore the contrasting roles and reputations of the Monroe daughters: Eliza, described as an "obstinate little firebrand" who served as an unofficial First Lady, and Maria, whose exclusive White House wedding ignited a social firestorm. The narrative follows the family from the heights of political influence to the financial scandals that shadowed their later years, offering a poignant look at the personal sacrifices and challenges behind early American power.

Sources used for this episode can be found at https://www.presidenciespodcast.com.

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Special thanks to Ann Foster of the Vulgar History podcast for joining me for this episode, and please be sure to check out her book, Rebel of the Regency: The Scandalous Saga of Caroline of Brunswick, Britain's Queen Without a Crown!

Sources used for both parts of the Monroe First Ladies episode:

  • Ammon, Harry. James Monroe: The Quest for National Identity. Charlottesville, VA and London: University Press of Virginia, 1999 [1971].
  • Brown, Stuart Gerry, ed. The Autobiography of James Monroe. Syracuse, NY: Syracuse University Press, 2017.
  • Duncan, Mike. Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution. New York: PublicAffairs, 2021.
  • Fix, Julie K. “Elizabeth Monroe.” American First Ladies: Their Lives and Their Legacy. Lewis L Gould, ed. New York and London: Garland Publishing Inc, 1996. pp. 69-79.
  • Ketcham, Ralph. The Madisons at Montpelier: Reflections on the Founding Couple. Charlottesville and London: University of Virginia Press, 2009.
  • Lomask, Milton. Aaron Burr: The Conspiracy and Years of Exile, 1805-1836. New York: Farrar Straus Giroux, 1982.
  • McGrath, Tim. James Monroe: A Life. New York: Penguin Random House, 2020.
  • Seale, William. The President’s House: A History, Volume One. Washington, DC: White House Historical Association, 1986.
  • Stewart, David O. American Emperor: Aaron Burr’s Challenge to Jefferson’s America. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2011.
  • VornDick, Barbara. Eliza’s True Story: The First Biography of President Monroe’s Eldest Daughter. Charlottesville, VA: Barnes & Noble Press, 2024.

Featured Images:

  • "Eliza Kortright Monroe Hay," courtesy of Wikipedia
  • "Maria Hester Monroe Gouverneur" [c. 1830], courtesy of Wikipedia